Dejan's projected roster

[jnn123]

There are a couple spots I'm sure you guys won't like.

SP: Paul Maholm, Zach Duke, Charlie Morton, Ross Ohlendorf, Kevin Hart
RP: Octavio Dotel, Brendan Donnelly, Evan Meek, Javier Lopez, DJ Carrasco, 2 of Vinnie Chulk, Jack Taschner, and Brian Bass
C: Ryan Doumit
1B: Jeff Clement
2B: Akinori Iwamura
SS: Ronny Cedeno
3B: Andy LaRoche
LF: Lastings Milledge
CF: Andrew McCutchen
RF: Garrett Jones

IF: Bobby Crosby, Delwyn Young
OF: Ryan Church, Brandon Moss
C: Jason Jaramillo or Erik Kratz

You can read his full details in the article. Basically the guys who are still alive are Daniel McCutchen, and John Raynor. Joel Hanrahan would bump one of the last relievers if he's ready to go.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10074...id=pirates.xml

[jnn123]

I know the two spots that are going to jump out at everyone immediately, but it's another one that I find interesting right now. I've heard the whole "Jason Jaramillo may start the year in AAA" thing from management a few times already, but I hadn't thought about it a lot until just now. If they're really thinking about using Kratz shouldn't he be with the team right now? They have 5 catchers in camp right now and he's not one of them. Seems pretty strange.

[indybucfan]

If it were me, I'd start with a 6 man bullpen and keep Raynor. Unless they plan to make a deal to keep him. You have an outfielder and an infielder that are knocking on the door. Answer the questions now so that when the time comes there's no doubts about the ones being moved out of the way.

[PittFaninVa]

I know the two spots that are going to jump out at everyone immediately, but it's another one that I find interesting right now. I've heard the whole "Jason Jaramillo may start the year in AAA" thing from management a few times already, but I hadn't thought about it a lot until just now. If they're really thinking about using Kratz shouldn't he be with the team right now? They have 5 catchers in camp right now and he's not one of them. Seems pretty strange.

He is in camp.

[tocchet92]

Some roster observations from Tim Williams:

"-After watching several games this week, I have a few observations and guesses as to how the 25-man roster will shape up:
I think Vinnie Chulk is a strong contender for a spot in the bullpen out of Spring Training. At this point I'd be surprised if he doesn't make the team.
Delwyn Young needs to make the bench. He's a good hitter, and while his defense isn't good enough to be a starter anywhere, he's capable as a backup player. I'd say he's equal or better than Ramon Vazquez at second base, which eliminates any need for Vazquez.
I wouldn't mind Bobby Crosby being our starting shortstop. His defense is more of a guarantee than Ronny Cedeno, and Crosby has strong numbers in his career against NL teams. His strong performance so far in Spring Training only adds to his case to be the starter.
If I had to guess, I'd say that Jack Taschner is a strong candidate to make the 25-man roster. If Taschner, Chulk, and D.J. Carrasco all make the team, two players would have to be removed from the 40-man roster (Jose Ascanio would clear the third spot by moving to the 60-day DL). That's not a problem, as two from the Brandon Moss/Ramon Vazquez/Delwyn Young/John Raynor group are guaranteed to be removed from the 40-man by the time Spring Training breaks."


Read more: http://www.buccofans.com/#ixzz0iFbKtJH5

[Kipper]

Some roster observations from Tim Williams:

"-After watching several games this week, I have a few observations and guesses as to how the 25-man roster will shape up:
I think Vinnie Chulk is a strong contender for a spot in the bullpen out of Spring Training. At this point I'd be surprised if he doesn't make the team.
Delwyn Young needs to make the bench. He's a good hitter, and while his defense isn't good enough to be a starter anywhere, he's capable as a backup player. I'd say he's equal or better than Ramon Vazquez at second base, which eliminates any need for Vazquez.
I wouldn't mind Bobby Crosby being our starting shortstop. His defense is more of a guarantee than Ronny Cedeno, and Crosby has strong numbers in his career against NL teams. His strong performance so far in Spring Training only adds to his case to be the starter.
If I had to guess, I'd say that Jack Taschner is a strong candidate to make the 25-man roster. If Taschner, Chulk, and D.J. Carrasco all make the team, two players would have to be removed from the 40-man roster (Jose Ascanio would clear the third spot by moving to the 60-day DL). That's not a problem, as two from the Brandon Moss/Ramon Vazquez/Delwyn Young/John Raynor group are guaranteed to be removed from the 40-man by the time Spring Training breaks."


Read more: http://www.buccofans.com/#ixzz0iFbKtJH5

Remember, that's 40 man. That's a bit different that starting lineup/25 man. A lot of 40 man guys that are going to be in the minors

[Kipper]

I know the two spots that are going to jump out at everyone immediately, but it's another one that I find interesting right now. I've heard the whole "Jason Jaramillo may start the year in AAA" thing from management a few times already, but I hadn't thought about it a lot until just now. If they're really thinking about using Kratz shouldn't he be with the team right now? They have 5 catchers in camp right now and he's not one of them. Seems pretty strange.

I understand the concept they are talking about regarding Kratz. It would actually be sort of a backwards promotion for Jaramillo IMO. Kratz being on the MLB roster riding the pine, sparing Doumit a game here or there but Jaramillo get a lot of work in AAA to prepare for either/or Doumit getting his annual 1-2 month injury or traded.

In a way, Kratz making the MLB roster wouldn't neccesarily mean that the organization believes he's the better of the 2

[jnn123]

He is in camp.

I guess I missed him, but so did the Pirates website. Now that I think about it he's been in a couple games I saw. He's not listing any stats and isn't on the list of NRIs either. Weird.

[tocchet92]

Remember, that's 40 man. That's a bit different that starting lineup/25 man. A lot of 40 man guys that are going to be in the minors

I am pretty sure he's talking about the 25 man roster. I suspect that is why he used the phrase "25-man roster" several times in the article. Only the last point referred to the 40 man and only b/c the makeup of the 25-man roster could affect the 40-man.

One main point is that Jack Taschner and Vinnie Chulk could make the opening day roster which is a bit of a surprise.

[Lup]

He is wrong about the roster. Moss, Raynor and DY could all make the team.

[Kipper]

I am pretty sure he's talking about the 25 man roster. I suspect that is why he used the phrase "25-man roster" several times in the article. Only the last point referred to the 40 man and only b/c the makeup of the 25-man roster could affect the 40-man.

One main point is that Jack Taschner and Vinnie Chulk could make the opening day roster which is a bit of a surprise.

40 man roster was mentioned a couple of times

Chulk and Taschner have looked very good in ST. I think Jnn made mention of it in a GDT of Chulk's numbers and we mentioned Taschner together in a GDT before this speculation.

The thinking heading into Spring Training was the loser of Hart/McCutchen going to the pen and with that not being the case, that's opened up a spot and Hanrahan's injury has opened a temporary spot. So... someone has to win 2 open spots. Chulk and Taschner have definitely deserved it (so far). It might be their performances actually that have changed Huntignton's mind about the loser of the Hart/McCutchen battle going to AAA. Viable BP options can cure early feelings of dependency

[Kipper]

He is wrong about the roster. Moss, Raynor and DY could all make the team.

Moss over Ryan Church?

[Lup]

Not Moss over Church, but Clement isn't a lock. I do think he will make the team, but he isn't a lock. The other possibilty is an 11 man pitching staff. If they go with 11 then all 3 will make the team.

[PittFaninVa]

Not Moss over Church, but Clement isn't a lock. I do think he will make the team, but he isn't a lock. The other possibilty is an 11 man pitching staff. If they go with 11 then all 3 will make the team.

Clement needs to see ball ....hit ball.

[BigBen2112]

Crosby might be able to beat out Cedeno...I think Hart starting would just be an example of JR giving away a spot not having someone earn it.